February 27, 2006 

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 Brown Shoes Diary 

My Meeting With Rick

Rick Geist allowed me to spend a half hour with him on Friday, February 24.  I'm not sure why, but I expected him to be polite, respectful, and informative.  He was all but three of those things.  What follows is as accurate a reconstruction of the interview that my memory allows.  I definitely learned my lesson and will take a recorder the next time.
 
After introductions in which he insisted I call him, "Rick," and I asked that he call me, "John," I quickly complimented him on how good his staff is at providing constituent service.  (I know from personal experience that they are very helpful.)  I also thanked him for his involvement with the Tour de 'Toona, an event that I think is a good thing for our area.  He informed me that very little taxpayer money goes into the Tour, "maybe $10,000 out of a budget of $500,000" and that the taxpayer money is used for the extra police salaries necessary for the event.  I do have to wonder, however, if it's such a small part of the budget, why can't they get by without any taxpayer money period?  And then I thanked him for his time and willingness to meet with me.  I was determined to be polite and respectful, to be on my best behavior.
 
The meeting, unfortunately, quickly turned nasty.  Rick said I'd be happy to know that he'll be assisting
Penn State in its budget requests and I made the mistake of being honest.  I told him that as an employee of Penn State, I don't appreciate Penn State being on the public dole.  There really is no moral nor economic justification for taking taxpayers' money to give to Penn State.  Rick then asked if I accept my salary from the University and when I replied in the affirmative (I do earn it, after all), he called me a prostitute.  I didn't say this, but if I am a prostitute would that make Rick, by his reasoning, a pimp or a john or both?
 
A quick digression.  If I limited myself to work only for companies and institutions who are NOT getting government subsidies, I wouldn't be working at all.  There just aren't any companies that don't get welfare in one form or another.  So, politicians like Rick Geist have created a world where I either work at institutions that violate my moral sensibilities or I don't work at all, which would be a worse choice, in my opinion.  But thank you to all you socialists who have created this world where the choice to consistently uphold a moral code of conduct is always compromised.
 
Back to my pimp, I mean, back to Representative Rick.  He also said, with respect to
Penn State, that its subsidized tuition is the reason he got to go to college in the first place.  Otherwise, he wouldn't have been able to afford it.  Maybe so, but aren't there other ways to provide for deserving people besides welfare?  I mean, there certainly is charity in Pennsylvania and America, isn't there?  It's just a question of who is the better benefactor: private individuals doing it voluntarily or government doing it by force?  I rather resented the insinuation of Rick that Pennsylvanians would have let him down were they not ordered by the government.  I resent Penn State's requests for taxpayer dollars for the same reason.  It's an insult to the good people of the Commonwealth.
 
So right away he employed the top two techniques of politicians who are wrong on the issues and uninterested in discussing them--he calls his opponent names and tries to get his opponent on the defensive. Except in this case, I'm just a tax-paying constituent trying to get answers to simple questions.  There was absolutely no call for his hostility and disrespect.
 
I assured Rick that I'm not his opponent.  I was there for information only.  He said that wasnt true and that I'm an attack dog, who was there to assail his character.  I assure all the readers of this piece that I was not disrespectful, confrontational, nor accusative--I only asked questions in as polite a manner as I am capable.    For example, I noted the relatively poor performance of
Pennsylvania's economy and particularly poor economic performance of his district.  What does he think accounts for this? His answer was an aging population.  Now, I thought this an interesting reply because it's not one that can immediately be dismissed.  Hoping he would elaborate, I asked, "It's demographics that is causing the Commonwealth's poor economy?"  At this point he said he would not stand for me calling him corrupt.  Where that came from I have no clue, but I said I wasn't, I was just asking questions.  He said I most certainly was calling him corrupt, that I have a chip on my shoulder, and he just preferred I'd leave the office.
 
I might have understood his testiness if he were in the midst of a difficult campaign, but this is a guy who has no opponent in the next election and is a shoe-in for a 15th term.  Why the nastiness bordering on paranoia?  I half expected him to pull some steel balls out of his pocket and begin spinning them in his palm, all the while explaining what happened to the strawberries.
 
I repeated that I was just asking questions and I didn't understand why he thought I was calling him corrupt.  I hadn't yet asked about the pay raise, the unvouchered expenses he took, or the vote he cast to raise the retirement benefits of all state employees, including his own and his wife's.  But maybe the guy can read minds or maybe my body language was revealing more than I thought.  Who knows?
 
I persisted because there is plenty that I am uniformed about in
Pennsylvania politics and this was my first chance to talk with one of the main players.  I asked why he didn't support making Pennsylvania a Right-to-Work state. He said he did in the past.  So I asked, "Why don't you still support it?"  He replied that it's not going to go anywhere and to promote that idea would make him ineffective in his leadership position.
 
The thought occurred to me that he must have gone to the Bob Jubelirer School of Leadership.  You'll remember last year that Senator Jubelirer said that he supported the pay raise because other legislators wanted it and as leader he had to go along with the crowd.  These guys in
Harrisburg have a most peculiar notion of what leadership is, don't you think?  They'll lead as soon as they find out where everybody is going.
 
At some point in the interview, I asked Rick where I could find his voting record.  After all, there's virtually nothing on his website on how he has voted on legislation and tax increases.  He assured me that it is readily available on-line as is everybody's voting record in
Harrisburg.  Now he may be right, but I told him I spent a lot of time trying unsuccessfully to find that information and that a very knowledgeable and active political person in our area has informed me that the voting records of legislators are nearly impossible to find.  They are certainly not in one location for easy reference for voters.  I even mentioned to Rick the trouble Allison Schroeder of Channel 10 news had to go through to get simple information on the expenses of legislators.  Rick told me all this information is easily available and though he did not know the weblink off hand, he would email it to me.  I'll let WRTA listeners and WRTA.com readers know if he does.
 
Somewhere past the halfway point in the in the interview, he asked me, with obvious contempt, what I thought "representative government" was all about.  It finally got through to me that he wasn't interested in answering my questions and was going to continue to attack me.  I replied that before we can talk about "representative government" we need to address what government is.  And government, I told him and it's about time somebody did, is an institution whose only legitimate purpose is to protect people's property.  His comment on that remark, and I quote verbatim, "Well, it does a lousy job of that."  Hallelujah!!!  Rick and John agree on something.  And further agreement:  Representative Rick assured me that the
Pennsylvania legislature would pass a law for protection against eminent domain abuse by the end of the current session.  If this happens, I will happily applaud Rick and his colleagues.
 
My appointment to see Rick was for
9:30, but it didn't begin until 9:45.  At 10:15 one of his staff informed him that his 10 o'clock appointment was waiting.  I know a cue when I hear one.  Still, I had a number of questions to ask because instead of addressing my questions he chose to be combative rather than informative.  I wanted to ask about his position on HR 177--a resolution addressing "political correctness" in our academic institutions. (See http://www.townhall.com/opinion/column/mikeadams/2006/02/22/187524.html  for the most recent examples at Penn State.  It's a very funny read even if it does shame my profession.)  I wanted to know what he's doing to reduce taxes.  He did say at one point that there is a pot of money in Harrisburg and he sees his job as bringing as much of that pot home as he can.  I thought I heard a pig squealing in the background.  I did suggest at this comment that I thought he had a duty to put the interests of the Commonwealth above those of his district.  He replied by saying that one of his top priorities is balancing the state's budget, so I made another suggestion: we just shut government down altogether.  Voila!  In a single move the budget is balanced in perpetuity, his top priority is achieved, and the producers and workers in the state can live in peace.
 
Well, I had to ask him about the Sovereign Bank legislation. [See my WRTA letter to editor at http://www.wrtanews.com/artman/publish/article_3766.shtml]  He said that a hedge fund was interfering with the bank's operations.  I asked him if he thought hedge funds were evil.  He said that they ruin companies.  Now, I happen to know a thing or two about hedge funds and, in fact,
Penn State's Smeal College of Business has its own hedge fund.  It turns out they're just like any other capitalists--they make investments, they try to make those investments efficient and profitable, and if they're successful, they get rich and the economy where they invested is improved.  But Rick, who I think has an associates degree in engineering from Penn State, apparently graduated without ever learning that lesson.  I wonder if the University can rescind his diploma the same way he and his buddies in Harrisburg rescinded the property rights of Pennsylvania's investors?
 
I asked Rick if he was on board when Act 36 passed back in 1990 "saving" the Armstrong Corporation.  He said proudly that he was.  I asked if he was aware of the economic damage to the state due to that legislation.  He said he had never seen a study done on it.  There actually have been several peer-reviewed studies on Act 36 published in the very best finance and economics journals.  I handed Rick a copy of my WRTA essay, "Rendell's War on
Pennsylvania's Economy," and asked that he read it and told him that I referenced one of the studies in the essay.  What I should have asked was whether or not he had voted for the "Just Say No" law, which effectively repealed the destructive Act 36.  I'm guessing he did, which means he was in favor of the act before he was against it; just as he was in favor of Right-to-Work before he was against that.  John Kerry has nothing on our Rick. 
 
In any case, here's a thought: Rick, how about putting shareholders' property rights into that eminent domain legislation you're promising?  That's a great idea.  Potential investors in
Pennsylvania's economy would love to know their investments aren't going to be stolen any longer by our government.
 
To give you an idea of how difficult it is to ask Rick a simple question, he refused to admit there was any conflict of interest in his voting for a 25% increase in the retirement pensions of state employees, including his own and his wife's.  I agreed with him that his vote may have been the right thing to do, but there still was, by definition, a conflict of interest.  He insisted there wasn't.  How could there not be?  He insisted there wasn't.
 
The most exasperating part of the interview was asking about the pay raise.  He claimed it was done constitutionally and he said all the courts back him on this.  He also insisted that taking unvouchered expenses in anticipation of the pay raise was proper.  So I asked, "Why did you return the money?"  (I've been told he has returned the unvouchered expenses.)  His answer was extremely unclear--something about he gave the money to his church before he had actually taken it from the taxpayers.  I pressed him to clarify, but he was indignant with me on this point and refused to clarify anything.
 
Finally, he ushered me out of the office.  As he shook my hand (I shook his out of gratitude for his time and respect for his office--I'm guessing he shook mine out of habit), he insisted that he's never ducked the media.  I'm not going to argue with that, but he sure cried like a baby with my questions and I'm not even part of the media, except in the weakest sense possible.  Rick's parting comments to me were that he works very hard for his constituents, routinely putting in 60 to 80 hour weeks.  I'm sure he's honest on this point; after all, you can't vote on pay raises at
2:00 AM if you're not busy the rest of the day.  But I came away believing if he and his buddies in Harrisburg worked a lot less hard and put in a lot fewer hours, the people of Pennsylvania would be a lot better off.  Especially those in his district. 


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